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Musik zum Tanzen
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:20:22 -0600
From: "Stephen P. Brown" <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: music buying advice
Mark Miller wrote:
>I'd like to buy some tango music so that I can practise dancing at
>home. Can anyone please point me toward a few of their favorite
>recordings or toward some which they think might be of especial
>interest to someone new to the dance?
Many will suggest that you can improve your odds of finding good dance
music by watching for titles by the four big names in Tango dance
music: Carlos Di Sarli, Juan D'Arienzo, Anibal Troilo, and Osvaldo
Pugilese. Their orchestras were the most popular during the Golden
Age of Tango, and their music is still prominently featured at
milongas in Buenos Aires. The older orchestras like Francisco Canaro
and Miguel Calo produced music that is very good for Tango dancing,
and are better suited for learning to hear the walking rhythm of
Tango.
Some of my current favorites for dancing are:
Francisco Canaro -- La Melodia de Nuestra Adios (El Bandoneon EBCD 30)
An older recording with a slow, simple, and clear beat for dancing.
May be the single best choice for learning to hear the rhythm of Tango
music.
Litto Nebia Quinteto -- Tangos Argentinos de Enrique Cadicamo (Iris
980)
As a guitar player I really enjoy this recent release with guitar,
bandoneon, piano, bass and violin. It is my current favorite. It is
very well recorded and generally has the slow, clear beat most
desirable for dancing. This CD was previously released in Argentina
as 12 Tangos Argentinos Para Bailar: La Musica Inedita de Enrique
Cadicamo (Melopea Discos CDMSE 5074).
Carlos Di Sarli -- Milonguero Viejo (Music Hall 10018-2)
Fantastic music with a slow, clear beat most desirable for dancing.
(Reported as discontinued.)
Carlos Di Sarli -- Lo Mejor de Carlos Di Sarli (Music Hall 246509)
Very nice with a slow, clear beat most desirable for dancing. I don't
know if this is available in the United States. My disc was purchased
in Argentina and I have not seen it listed in the catalogue of any of
the importers.
Miguel Calo -- Yo Soy el Tango (El Bandoneon EBCD 34)
Older recordings with a simple and clear beat for dancing. Many
people regard this CD as the number one choice for Tango music. Most
tracks have vocals.
Anibal Troilo -- Sus Mejores Momentos (Music Hall 246529)
Very good music with a clear beat for dancing.
Anibal Troilo -- El Immortal Pichuco (El Bandoneon EBCD 1)
Anibal Troilo -- Quejas de Bandoneon (EMI Odeon _______)
Very good music with a clear beat for dancing. My favorite of three
different Troilo CDs that are titled "Quejas de Bandoneon." My copy
was obtained in Buenos Aires.
Anibal Troilo -- Quejas de Bandoneon (Music Hall _______)
Very good music with a clear beat for dancing. One of three different
Troilo CDs that are titled "Quejas de Bandoneon."
Anibal Troilo -- Quejas de Bandoneon (El Bandoneon EBCD __)
My least preferred of three different Troilo CDs that are titled
"Quejas de Bandoneon," but it is readily available, and most tracks
are quite danceable.
Juan D'Arienzo -- El Rey del Compas (El Bandoneon EBCD 43)
An older recording with a very clear, steady beat for dancing.
Osvaldo Pugliese -- Recuredo (El Bandoneon EBCD 71)
A good choice for Tango dance music. Pugliese's arrangments are bit
more rhythmically challenging than those played by other dance
orchestras.).
Carlos Di Sarli -- El Senor del Tango (El Bandoneon EBCD 38)
A good recording of Di Sarli that is more readily available but not as
good as those listed above.
Francisco Canaro -- Nobleza de Arrabal (El Bandoneon EBCD 90)
Orquesta Tipica Victor -- 1926-1940 (El Bandoneon EBCD 85)
Francisco Canaro -- Tiempos Viejos - (Blue Moon BMT 18)
Ricardo Tanturi con Alberto Castillo -- Cuatro Compases (El Bandoneon
EBCD 48)
In building my collection for dancing, I found the Tango Montreal
website
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:26:30 -0700 From: Tom Stermitz <stermitz@CSN.NET> Subject: Re: music buying advice Now Steve and I finally have something to disagree about. My favorite orchestras right now are not the "big four", except for Puglies, but then I don't think he fits with the others since he is in a dramatic category of his own. I like the "other" orchestras, Calo, Demare, Laurenz, de Angelis, Biagi. > Mark Miller wrote: > > >I'd like to buy some tango music so that I can practise dancing at > >home. Can anyone please point me toward a few of their favorite > >recordings or toward some which they think might be of especial > >interest to someone new to the dance? > > Many will suggest that you can improve your odds of finding good dance > music by watching for titles by the four big names in Tango dance > music: Carlos Di Sarli, Juan D'Arienzo, Anibal Troilo, and Osvaldo > Pugilese. Their orchestras were the most popular during the Golden > Age of Tango, and their music is still prominently featured at > milongas in Buenos Aires. The older orchestras like Francisco Canaro > and Miguel Calo produced music that is very good for Tango dancing, > and are better suited for learning to hear the walking rhythm of > Tango. > > Some of my current favorites for dancing are: > > Francisco Canaro -- La Melodia de Nuestra Adios (El Bandoneon EBCD 30) The best Canaro in my mind is the one from the Relequias series. It has the really good waltzes on it. Canaro is one of the more "listenable" of the tango artist...perhaps a little too "pop" for serious tango. > Carlos Di Sarli -- Milonguero Viejo (Music Hall 10018-2) > Fantastic music with a slow, clear beat most desirable for dancing. > Carlos Di Sarli -- Lo Mejor de Carlos Di Sarli (Music Hall 246509) Di Sarli truly has a slow, dramtic, lyrical feel. Perfect for beginners, but I still feel my tango inspiration from di Sarli, even though I have "graduated" to Pugliese. > > Miguel Calo -- Yo Soy el Tango (El Bandoneon EBCD 34) > Older recordings with a simple and clear beat for dancing. Many > people regard this CD as the number one choice for Tango music. Most > tracks have vocals. The "other" orchestras (ie, not di Sarli, Troilo, D'Arienzo) have become my favorites. Every Miguel Calo album I have are extremely enjoyable, including the "new" ones in Daniel Trenner's catalog which are as good or better than the one listed. The above mentioned album features the singing of Podesta' who is very, very nice. > Anibal Troilo -- Sus Mejores Momentos (Music Hall 246529) > Very good music with a clear beat for dancing. > Anibal Troilo -- El Immortal Pichuco (El Bandoneon EBCD 1) > Anibal Troilo -- Quejas de Bandoneon (EMI Odeon _______) > Anibal Troilo -- Quejas de Bandoneon (Music Hall _______) > Anibal Troilo -- Quejas de Bandoneon (El Bandoneon EBCD __) I have not made personal peace with Troilo, but then his style of music is pretty diverse. I find most of Troilo kind of non-descript, and perhaps too often in a major key. I don't find any of the arrangements to represent The Definitive Version. That is my opinion, I know that Ruddy Zelaya disagrees. > Juan D'Arienzo -- El Rey del Compas (El Bandoneon EBCD 43) > An older recording with a very clear, steady beat for dancing. For me D'Arienzo is a style, and there are other orchestras that do very nicely in that style. Larry from Seattle calls this rinky-tinky music, and yes indeed, it has lovely percussive rinky-tinky and playful rhythms. Other orchestras are just as good and distinctive in their own right. Firpo for example continued playing in that rhythmic style long into the 50s. My favorite rinky-tinky orchestras right now are Biagi (elevator shaft music-it drops out on you leaving your heart suspended in mid-air) and Donato, which is available on El Bandoneon. Donato is not as maintstream as some of the others, but is really fun. Almost all recordings from the 1930s (except perhaps de Caro) have this rhythmic, playful feel that Larry is infamous for. > Osvaldo Pugliese -- Recuredo (El Bandoneon EBCD 71) > A good choice for Tango dance music. Pugliese's arrangments are bit > more rhythmically challenging than those played by other dance > orchestras.). I don't think Recuerdo is the best example of Pugliese. Now that other CDs are readily available, they are much better choices, for example, de Caro por Pugliese, the Reliquias album (A los Amigos), Coleccion, and From Argentina to the World are all better in terms of the arrangements chosen. But the best one is Ausencia, which is not readily available. This album has absolutely killer versions of several songs including the waltz Desde el Alma and the riotously passsionate song Pasional, not to mention Cascabel, a carnaval song. > Ricardo Tanturi con Alberto Castillo -- Cuatro Compases (El Bandoneon > EBCD 48) > > --Steve de Tejas Tom Stermitz
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:00:00 -0100
From: Jan Dirk van Abshoven <cadena@ARTNET.XS4ALL.NL>
Subject: Re: music buying advice
Excellent choice by Tom (as it contains the ABC as mentioned earlier by my
distinguished compatriote Michael Cysouw:
TOM > I like the "other" orchestras, Calo, Demare, Laurenz, de Angelis, Biagi.
Here're some comments of mine on some of the singers who joined these
orchestras:
- Please check out Calo with singer Alberto Podesta. 'Percal', 'Cada dia te
extreno mas' and 'Que falta que me haces' to name a few.
- Note that Laurenz made possibly his best recordings with Podesta in '43-'44,
among others 'Veinticuatro de agosto', 'Alma de bohemio', 'Garua' and 'Recien'.
- Singer Raul Beron 'did it' with both Calo ('42-'44) and Demare ('43-'44).
Check out Calo's own composition 'Que te importa que te llore' and Demare's own
'Tal vez sea tu voz'
- Alfredo De Angelis is most known working with Carlos Dante and Julio Martel.
On a number of recordings singing together, check out 'Remolino' and 'Adios
Marinero' (1946). From 1951 Oscar Larroca assisted with songs like 'Por que me
das dique' and 'Almagro'. There are some wonderfull recordings with Floreal
Ruiz (note 'Como se muere de amor', 'Bajo el Cono azul' and 'Madre') who left
De Angelis after only one year to join Troilo (later Rotundo and Basso).
- Jorge Ortiz sang with both Miguel Calo and Rodolfo Biagi, with whom he
recorded my favourite 'Pueblito de provincia' on 15-01-1943.
In addition to the 'big four' and Tom's 'list of five', I would like to point
to my "other" orchestras: D'Agostino with Vargas, Tanturi with Campos and
Rodriguez with Moreno.
I will not attempt to say anything on the first two (anybody want to try...),
but Rodriguez could do with some support.
-Enrique Rodriguez is a not so widely known bandoneonista (1901-1971) who was
director of several orchestas from 1926. In the 1940's he made his best and
most typical work with singer Armando Moreno. Among his own compositions are:
'Llorar por una mujer', 'En la buena y en la mala' and 'Yo tambien tuve un
carino'.
Rodriguez has gained popularity in recent times in the Dutch milongas due to
the promotion of some of our most distinguished deejays and coleccionistas. His
songs have been used for dance performances of both Argentine and Dutch
meastros.
Among my most favourite of his tunes are (apart from the above mentioned):
'Suerte Loca' (comp. Garcia Jimenez/Aieta) and 'Como se pianta la vida' (comp.
Carlos Vivan).
Should you be in The Netherlands on march 28, be sure to find these orchestras
played at the Gran Salon de Baile in Utrecht (contact me for further details
and free tickets).
The deejay of the evening ("Roberto Tambien") will be responsible for playing
Florindo Sassone, which is no favourite of mine, and very controversial in our
country anyway. As in his own days he can be considered as nothing other than a
lousy copy of Di Sarli. And for me I'll have the original! (Note that Alberto
Podesta also made some excellent stuff with Di Sarli).
All the best and enjoy
Jan Dirk
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Jan Dirk van Abshoven
Editor La Cadena, The Dutch tangomagazine
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:56:39 -0600
From: Matej Oresic <matej@LANCELOT.BIO.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: Enrique Rodriguez ... (Re: music buying advice)
Jan Dirk van Abshoven wrote:
>
> Rodriguez has gained popularity in recent times in the Dutch milongas due to
> the promotion of some of our most distinguished deejays and coleccionistas.
His
> songs have been used for dance performances of both Argentine and Dutch
> meastros.
>
While Rodriguez seems to be more widely known for his fox-trots,
pasadobles, and waltzes, mostly availible on CD, he also made few great
tango recordings. Unfortunately one cannot find his best tangos, with
exception of "Son Cosas del Bandoneon", on compact disc. Am I wrong?
(hope I am...) As far as I know, tangos are availible only on tapes from
"Club de Tango" in BsAs.
When in Buenos Aires last Summer, tangos of Enrique Rodriguez have been
heard in every single milonga, and they seemed to be quite "in fashion".
The excitement of dancing to "Llorar por una mujer" or "Como se Pierda
la Vida" (the same tango as "Como se Pianta la Vida", recorded by
Tanturi/Castillo, only "pianta" was replaced with "pierda") reminds me
most of my last trip... and obviously they are now a must at every
milonga where I play the music.
Some of my own additional favorites:
Among other favorites are early Di Sarli (1939-approx. 1945, ex.
"Corazon"; some of it availible on "Sus Primeros Exitos, Vols. 1/2 on
"Tango Argentino" series, otherwise go to Buenos Aires and find the
"Club Tango Argentino" series containing all his recordings in
chronological order), D'Arienzo of 30s (with Echague, ex. "No Mientas",
"Pensalo Bien"; on "El Bandoneon" series, or instrumental, ex. "El
Flete"), Fresedo of 30s (ex. "Tigre Viejo"; can be found on a CD sold by
Planet Tango). I prefer De Angelis of 50s, with instrumentals like
"Pavadita", "La Cumparsita" (availible on "From Argentina to the
World"), and with the singer Oscar Larroca. Obviously, already mentioned
D'Agostino/Vargas, Calo/Beron, Tanturi/Castillo, Tanturi/Campos, Biagi,
Troilo/Fiorentino, Demare, Laurenz are also loved, so are milongas by
Lomuto, Canaro, D'Arienzo, Di Sarli, or valses by D'Arienzo, De Angelis,
and Troilo, to mention only few. Among the "older" ones, Donato, Lomuto
("Tango Maestro" series), Quinteto Pirincho (check the recent CD from
"El Bandoneon"), Firpo, Vardaro (any good CD out?), as well as De Caro,
are my favorites. Ultimately, it all depends on my mood...
The period obviously matters, eventhough one shouldn't be too confined
with it, because there are allways exceptions... Generaly, I find Di
Sarli of 50s, which is mostly known, too slow for a milonga (and Sassone
even more so), and I don't really think it is so appropriate for
learning either, and prefer early Di Sarli, which is unfortunately a bit
harder to find. Similarly with Troilo, prefering early instrumental
tangos as well as with Fiorentino. Early D'Arienzo is also more charming
than the late "camp style". Pugliese, as Tom mentioned, is a special
category, and even his Piazzolla arrangements (Zum, Verano Porteno) are
great for dancing at an "appropriate moment".
Well, the fashion in tango music for dancing mostly moves in circles,
due to lack of great new recordings, or at least lack of their
acceptance. Today, the Enrique Rodriguez seems to be the "in" orchestra,
partialy because his music is really great for dancing, and partialy
because he hasn't been so widely known and is therefore something "new".
Best,
Matej
matej@lancelot.bio.cornell.edu
http://lancelot.bio.cornell.edu/matej/tango/
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